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Web Poll 1
Here's a possible solution to the Financial Meltdown: Instead of "bailing out" those big banks & insurance companies with a $700 Billion bailout, why not just give all that money to us American citizens. Consider this: There are approx 200 million American citizens over the age of 18 (& I'm assuming a great majority are registered voters). If Congress paid us a mere $300,000 each (tax free), it would help us pay off our mortgages, boost the economy, pay for college, get out of debt, etc etc for a total amount of $60 Billion. If you want to tax Joe Citizen, then pay us $425,000 each, so we can then pay a 30 percent tax rate on that (about a $125,000 check from 200 Million registered voters). That will leave us with $300,000 each AFTER taxes. (hence the tax-free status). [Look - I know the math is not exact].

Congress should allow AIG, and the other banks to fail IF THE FREE MARKET is allowed to work. American citizens should NOT be held responsible for ANY business that can't make a profit. Those banks should be liquidated and sold off if they go belly-up.

Some people may argue that this "idea" is nothing more than National Socialism (which then translates into Fascism), by evening out the national wealth (& debt) across the board. This is what was supposed to happen when the Communists came to power & took over Russia, but what really happened was those dudes in charge of Russia took all the wealth of the nation and kept it from the citizens, forcing everyone else to fend for themselves.

Today, if we allow Congress to follow through with the passage of the "Bailout" bill, Congress will keep all that wealth for themselves, forcing the rest of us to fend for ourselves, JUST LIKE COMMUNIST RUSSIA. But, if each of us gets a check for $300,000 dollars, we maintain our financial freedom.

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Response to current presidential election:

From: Sherree Lowe
Date: Sun, Oct 12, 2008

This will make you re-think: A Trivia question in Sunday School:
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?

Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is. Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.

All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!'

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything..

Do we recognize this description??

I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet..do it!

I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.

From: Dr. John Tisdale 
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Dear Friends,

As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be. 

I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation! 

Please pray for our nation! 
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From: Dave (webmaster@floridajail4judges.org)
Date: Wed, Oct 15, 2008

WHAT'S THE EXACT SCRIPTURE? All I see is Revelation 13. In order for
this claim to have relevancy IT NEEDS AN EXACT REFERENCE.

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From: Sherree Lowe
Date: Sat, Oct 18, 2008

Chapter 13:1-17 in my Bible, and then references to other studies and books of the Bible, it talks of the Beasts etc. I don't really know, all I know is that Obama and his wife seem to fit into the overall picture, but then a few years back, it was foretold that Putin, of Russia was to rise up against the anti-christ, and the two beasts and the woman were to wage war against one another.

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From: Dave (webmaster@floridajail4judges.org)
Date: Mon, Oct 20, 2008

It just goes to show you, if someone's explanation is way too ambiguous, too "I don't know," then you should take whatever they are saying with a grain of salt.

Case in point: These people are saying Obama is a muslim without ANY proof, yet Obama has too many "I don't know"s concerning his ties with Farakhan, an anti-semetic Black muslim. Both sides bring doubt into the question of "Gee, should I vote for or against Obama?"

Then, on the other side of the coin, we have gov. Palin, who is guilty of leading a pork-barrel project in Alaska called "The Bridge To Nowhere". Her actions regarding accountability and integrity proves beyond any doubt that she is just another "Bush" in heels. (pun intended).

Some would argue that we are due for another assassination attempt. If we elect McCain, and he takes that dirt nap, guess who becomes president? Are you secure with that?

Then again, can either of us be secure with the fact that "Say it ain't so Joe" Biden, a lawyer, might become our next president?

I don't like either of the 2 socialist camps. I say we vote for a write-in candidate. His name is "NONE OF THE ABOVE".

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From: Sherree Lowe
Date: Mon, Oct 20, 2008

I agree, it is time for the people to make a stand, and let the cons know we have been fed enough lies, and know they are all holding reservations for a cell in the prisons they built for us!

NONE OF THE ABOVE.....however it is too late, because NOW, it is not the delegates, or the electorial college who will elect, because before the primaries they came up with the SUPER DELEGATES, the CFR and the legislature who will be making the choice for us, The death of America, will be this election day, November 4th, 2008, and the greatest Nation in the world will be buried shortly thereafter, the date of inturnment will be announced as soon as the next of kin have been notified to gather for the wake, there will be no memorial service, because those who were supposed to love and care for her, will be too busy digging through the garbage for food, and cardboard boxes to sleep in, to attend.

Once again, it will take some good men, who are willing to lay down their lives and fortunes, to take up arms, and round up the criminals, and drive the CFR back to the holes they came from! WE HAVE NO LEADERS, we have SLAVE TRADERS in power.

Response to web poll #1:
Great general idea. Terribly wrong math. I know. I went for the similar thing on the groups a few days ago (AIG = 85 billion), for only a few moments, then replied to my own posts in correction..
 
The REAL math, in this modified case below, actually works out to a mere $3500 for each adult citizen, NOT a whopping $300,000...
 
Still, even at $3500, it would be better spent, by far, on doling out to each adult citizen, for all the similar reasons below, rather than bailing out a few pirate companies who will just waste half of it, anyway..
 
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Response to web poll #1:

 

I agree with Torm Howse and disagree with you, Dave: BAD IDEA to offer Americans a free handout. However, my logic is different -the amount is moot and irrelevant to the concept:

 

A free handout would create more dollars, and thus the value of the dollar would go down.
 
For example: If your ideas is so good, Dave, why not get the Fed to print up enough money to give EVERY American a million dollars? See?! It would make the dollar valueless. Here, instead, is my analysis -of problem, cause, and proposed solution: Chew on this:
 
Three Problems - One Cause
 
By Gordon Wayne Watts, that's me...
 
At 1,105 words, “Colleges Get An 'F' In Finances,” published this Sunday by the Tampa Tribune (28 Sept 2008), is lengthy -but worth a read. Can I have just half their word-count to clarify some points which the author overlook? America’s economic meltdown begs for a response! So, here goes…
 
The author , Zoe Mendelson, correctly asserts that tuition is too high. In fact, my own research has discovered solid proof of price-gouging: In the 1956-57 school year, a semester of college cost $138, which is $1,093.85 adjusted for inflation, but now, same semester co$ts $10,066, an almost ten-fold increase! (Source: Budgeteer News, By Virgil Swing, May 15, 2008) However, she does not tell us exactly why this vile price-gouging occurs, so a comparison of three fields is in order:
 
#1: In the mid-90’s, I attempted to convince local news media (Tribune included, you veterans will recall) that Social Security was placing able-bodied persons on “disability” simply to meet a caseload quota and ensure a full 40-hour pay-week for social workers -because the government “backed” these applications, even when it meant “the system” might go bankrupt, but no one in the media heeded my warnings. What was the result? #2 below…
 
#2: Likewise, in the recent FannyMae-FreddyMac meltdown, the lending institutions were REAL eager to meet “low-income” sub-prime "quotas" for borrowers who could not afford to repay -because the government “backed” their loans. Again, disaster resulted from this eagerness to play with somebody else’s money.
 
#3: However, we have still not learned from our mistakes: Colleges and Universities, which would normally be constrained by the free market from price-gouging prospective student “customers,” now have no incentive to offer education at reasonable prices. Since youngsters are told they need a college education to succeed in today’s marketplace, they have little choice but to accept what is offered. If the universities had to absorb the cost of students who defaulted on loans, they would offer reasonable tuition. However, since these greedy mongrels know that “Uncle Same” (read: Mr. Taxpayer) will “back” any loans that default through, for example, Sallie Mae, guess what they do? Anything they want!
 
And this is precisely why consumer protections must be restored at all levels -Housing, College Tuition, and yes, Social Services and Welfare. This would entail resorting bankruptcy protection to student loans, saying “no” to the proposed bailout of Wall Street, and more oversight (by both news media and government) of the Social Services offered at State and Federal levels.
 
Only when these three giants can feel the pain of their own mistakes will there be an incentive to offer services at a reasonable price -instead of playing “free and loose” with our tax dollars. However, I have a sinking feeling that our nation will not learn its lesson, and the next time I come by to say “I told you so,” will be too late -when our nation follows the path of Rome: It fell. Oh, by the way, Mr. And Mrs. Lawmaker who support any bailout: We will remember you in November, we promise you that. Yes indeed: “Both Parties Are Proven Big Spenders,” as Joseph Brown rightly says in Sunday’s commentary -and they both need to stop!
 
There is no "alternative" plan. All we should do is simply say NO to any bailout of even one penny. The houses and land won't fly up into the sky if we refuse their bailout plan -my reply to the rich people asking for a handout from the Taxpayers? "Let them eat cake."
 
Gordon Wayne Watts is a candidate for Florida House Dist.64, a litigant in the Terri Schiavo case whose case fared better than the Governor’s similar litigation, and a blogger at gordonwaynewatts.com.
 
Documentation to verify my assertions above:
 
Claim 1: “candidate for Florida House Dist.64”
* See the Fla Dept of State’s website for a current listing of candidates.
* See also:
http://www.gordonwaynewatts. com/Campaign.html#EDUCATION
 
Claim 2: “whose case fared better than the Governor’s similar litigation”
* In Re: GORDON WAYNE WATTS (as next friend of THERESA MARIE “TERRI” SCHIAVO), No. SC03-2420 (Fla. Feb.23, 2003), denied 4-3 on rehearing.
* In Re: JEB BUSH, GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA, ET AL. v. MICHAEL SCHIAVO, GUARDIAN: THERESA SCHIAVO, No. SC04-925 (Fla. Oct.21, 2004), denied 7-0 on rehearing.
** See also both my blog and the Fla Sup Ct website.
 
Claim 3: “and a blogger at gordonwaynewatts.com” No proof needed -there really is a website!
Have the Ameri can Peopl e compl etely lost their Minds ?

A lot of Ameri cans have becom e so insul ated from reali ty that they
imagi ne that Ameri ca can suffe r defea t witho ut any incon venie nce to thems elves .

Pause a momen t, refle ct back.
These event s are actua l event s from histo ry. . They reall y happe ned! !!

Do you remem ber?

1. 1968 Bobby Kenne dy was shot and kille d by a Musli m male extre mist.

2.  In 1972 at the Munic h Olymp ics, athle tes were kidna pped and massa cred by Musli m male extre mists .

3.  In 1979, the US embas sy in Iran was taken over by Musli m male extre mists .

4.  Durin g the 1980' s a numbe r of Ameri cans were kidna pped in Leban on by Musli m male extre mists .

5.  In 1983, the US Marin e barra cks in Beiru t was blown up by Musli m male extre mists .

6.  In 1985 the cruis e ship Achil le Lauro was hijac ked and a 70 year old Ameri can passe nger was murde red and throw n overb oard in his wheel chair by Musli m male extre mists .

7.  In 1985 TWA fligh t 847 was hijac ked at Athen s , and a US Navy diver tryin g to rescu e passe ngers was murde red by Musli m male extre mists .

8.  In 1988 , Pan Am Fligh t 103 was bombe d by Musli m male extre mists .

9.  In 1993 the World Trade Cente r was bombe d the first time by Musli m male extre mists .

10.  In 1998, the US embas sies in Kenya and Tanza nia were bombe d by Musli m male extre mists .

11.  On 9/ 11/ 01, four airli ners were hijac ked; two were used as missi les to take down the World Trade Cente rs and of the remai ning two, one crash ed into the US Penta gon and the other was diver ted and crash ed by the passe ngers .

Thous ands of peopl e were kille d by Musli m male extre mists . They got it this time.

12. Since 2002 the Unite d State s has fough t a war in Afgha nista n again st Musli m male extre mists .

13.  In 2002 repor ter Danie l Pearl was kidna pped and murde red (CUT HIS HEAD OFF ON LIVE T. V. )-- you guess ed it-- Musli m male extre mists .

No, I reall y don' t see a patte rn here to justi fy profi ling, do you? So, to ensur e we Ameri cans never offen d anyon e, parti cular ly fanat ics inten t on killi ng us, airpo rt secur ity scree ners will no longe r be allow ed to profi le certa in peopl e... Absol utely No Profi ling!

They must condu ct rando m searc hes of 80- year- old women , littl e kids, airli ne pilot s with prope r ident ifica tion, secre t agent s who are membe rs of the Presi dent' s secur ity detai l, 85- year old Congr essme n with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winne r and forme r Gover nor Joe Foss, but leave Musli m Males alone lest they be guilt y of profi ling.

Accor ding to The Book of The Revel ation s:

The Anti- Chris t will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLI M desce nt, who will decei ve the natio ns with persu asive langu age, and have a MASSI VE Chris t- like appea l. . . .the proph ecy says that peopl e will flock to him and he will promi se false hope and world peace , and when he is in power , he will destr oy every thing .

And Now:
For the award winni ng Act of Stupi dity Of all times : the Peopl e of Ameri ca want to elect , to the most Power ful posit ion on the face of the Plane t -- The Presi dency of the Unite d state s of Ameri ca ... A Male of Musli m desce nt who is the most extre mely liber al Senat or in Congr ess (in other words an extre mist) and in his 40s.

Have the Ameri can Peopl e compl etely lost their Minds , or just their Power of Reaso n ??? I'm sorry but I refus e to take a chanc e on the ' unkno wn' candi date Obama ...

Let' s send this to as many peopl e as we can so that the Glori a Aldre ds and other stupi d attor neys along with Feder al Justi ces that want to thwar t commo n sense , feel asham ed of thems elves -- if they have any such sense .

As the write r of the award winni ng story ' Forre st Gump' so aptly put it, ' Stupi d Is As Stupi d Does'

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